but I do find that it helps you stay on track with the small group conversations and also just as a reminder of what you are learning. I wouldn’t recommend that anyone that is retaking it get the whole new kit though, even at the discounted price, there is just too much repeat stuff in the book and since you have all the old stuff you have what you need. In other words a new member could go online and order their own kit, but a returning member would need their coordinator to do it for them so they could get the discounted price. Because the coordinator would need to actually contact their advisor to place the order.
but Erin’s comments reminded me of a joke our priest told the other day in services. His homily for the day was about old fashioned values, and he started off with a story about himself to explain how old fashioned values can sometimes cause teasing even amongst priests. He was at some kind of priests’ convention and it was noon-hour, so the speaker suggested they stop for a moment and say their mid-day prayers from the Divine Office, which is the Catholic cycle of daily prayer. He was ready with his breviary, which is a big thick tome that is heavy and bulky to carry around. He had the pages marked and started reading, only to realize that all the other priests around him had their breviaries on iPads, tablets and even smartphones. He said he felt so out of place, being behind the times, and a few of the other priests gave him some good-natured ribbing about needing to catch up to the modern era.
We have a moment before all our services where the service announcer asks folks to silence their cellphones. But folks still do read during service; no way to know if they’re reading Scripture or the funny pages for that matter. As long as I don’t have to listen to their phone ring, I figure that any multi-tasking, or complementary reading along, is an issue between them and God. Not mine to guess at.
the pastor encourages folks to text him questions during the sermon….with so much negative in the world of technology its good to see it being used in a positive way…. sharon, my husband uses his laptop and pulls up three different versions when teaching so he can pick which one is more clear in getting the point across….
all the time and I too question him when we are doing school to see if he is hearing me, and most everytime he can tell me what I have been saying. I can’t say it still doesn’t drive me crazy, lol, but atleast he is getting it.
As far as technology, I guess it really does depend on where you live, we are a very rural, small town community and most of the time what everyone else is doing in the world now, we will be doing 2 years from now. So we might be where you are in a couple years!
but I wouldn’t assume that for everyone.
With the advent of technology, there are so many in our congregation who read the bible on their electronic devices. We have congregational scriptural reading and from the choir loft most of our congregation has their phone, ipad or other electronic device out for the readings. We’ve stopped printing litanies in bulletins (less paper) because people can easily refer to them on their own. Where people used to carry their bible in book form, very few do so now. They take notes on their devices etc.
I’m sure they check their e-mail too… that multi-tasking thing but I think church can change with the times as well. When I was a kid I used to doodle on the bulletin EVERY Sunday. My mom used to think that was horrible so she started quizzing me on what I heard. I could recite practically word for word what I heard. I used to doodle in school all the time too, but I graduated at 15, and from college at 19 so I wasn’t missing much.
Historically – maybe in the black community – retaining the interests of children/teens in church has been difficult. We’ve expanded into the web, and into Facebook and Twitter. We even have a minister who sends out an inspirational text message 3 times a week – including Sunday morning. I guess you can say we’ve embraced technology and don’t find it offensive or rude when people use their phones during services.
Your ears close up when you look at something else?
But to answer your question specific to me… he’s my “dad”, most of the time I’ve typed up his sermon during the week so I already know what he’s going to say, I’ve read the scripture before hand, double checking that I have spelled everything correctly, quoted it as written, prepared the slides for the viewing of the congregation etc. I sing in the choir etc. So maybe you misinterpret what I’m capable of doing 🙂
Then you have to understand that I’m also in church services several times a week… its my business to be in church services, so I’m not being disrespectful, in my mind or purpose.
but if you are doing other things besides listening to your pastor’s sermon, I find that not giving God your full attention during church. I mean isn’t the point of going to church to hear God’s word and be filled with the spirit? It is also rude to the pastor when someone is checking their messages during church instead of paying attention. Most of the time a pastor will spend many hours getting their sermon ready for Sunday and he deserves the respect of his congregation to pay attention. I just feel like we can give other things hours of our time, why can’t we give God a couple of hours a week, and of course I would hope that we are giving Him more than that. But I do know for many people the only time they think of God is during their Sunday morning church service. Sad.
still do lots of things during long church services. The advent of the smart phone for starters LOL. I’ve always been a multi-tasker and I can listen to the service and catch up on e-mail 🙂
Church generally goes from 11am to 2pm depending on the Sunday. During football season, when the Falcons are in town, I miss church. Or I could opt to go to the early morning service at 7:30 and be back home by 9am but I miss it all. Sunday I do try to sleep longer so I don’t routinely go to early morning service although I”m guaranteed to be out at a certain time.
I go to the later and longer service because my friends go to that longer service and we find plenty besides the minister, occupy our interests.
I seem to stay in church though… if it isn’t Sunday service, I have a funeral. I didn’t make service today, but I have a funeral tomorrow…